How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

How much should one budget to travel for 1 month generally?

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

What is love?

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

then who is there to know what happens without?

If you believe in God, do you think God can save you from cancer?

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Why does my cat get anxious during loud noises like thunderstorms or firework displays? Is this a common behavior for cats, and is there a way to help them cope with it?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Why do diabetic people sweat so much?

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

What is the estimated number of people with an extra X chromosome?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Do you as a gay male enjoy the feeling of getting a penis in your anus?

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

What do you think, TikTok is nothing but another porn site? Do you agree or not? Why?

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Why is blood sugar ranging from 70-180 in a day and checked through a glucometer?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Now here in this verse

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Are democrats eating crow?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

How could Trump, with his deplorable garbage supporters, manage to win an election?

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

What is your craziest/worst Halloween story?

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Why do women have sex with dogs?

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

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Do you have any attributes quirks sensitivities abilities etc that you've come to learn most people don't experience? E.g. dream with subtext or experience de ja vu regularly or know you experience life very differently from those around you etc?

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

I'm looking for an answer from people who consider themselves "Gender Critical", or transphobic, or TERFs, and my question is this - Why would you refuse to use the pronouns someone wants? What does it cost you? Where's the harm?

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Sain (a barber)

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Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

CONCLUSION:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

I am like a fish out of water,

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

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So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Kabir (a weaver)